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HDX900 Firewire port
by Pat McGowan on Jun 16, 2006 at 6:05:20 pm

What is available at the HDX900 camera firewire port? Is it 100 mbps DVCPRO HD?




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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by tony salgado on Jun 16, 2006 at 6:34:19 pm


Are you considering using the camcorder to "digitize" from.

If so this is a bad idea long term. The camcorder transport was not designed to be used for constant searching and shuttling.

In general putting additional wear and tear on the camcorder heads and transport is highly discouraged.

Rent or buy a playback vtr which is the proper tool for frequent use.



Tony Salgado

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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by gary adcock on Jun 16, 2006 at 11:50:32 pm

[Pat McGowan] "What is available at the HDX900 camera firewire port? Is it 100 mbps DVCPRO HD?"

I mirror all of tony's comments
but to answer the question
Yes it is ONLY DVCPROHD out of the FW port (but think data to a firestore with a tape backup)





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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by Pat McGowan on Jun 18, 2006 at 3:23:54 am

Thanks guys but I will be buying a 1400 series deck for digitizing.

Thinking about workflow in the field. Capturing to a laptop and pre-editing. That sort of thing.

So, the port delivers 100 mbps DVCHD only? Or can it be set for other data streams?



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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by gary adcock on Jun 18, 2006 at 2:48:52 pm

[Pat McGowan] "So, the port delivers 100 mbps DVCHD only? Or can it be set for other data streams?"

it's HD only --what other data streams are there?? the camera only shoots 720 and 1080 HD to tape only -
Not SD and not MXF (that is data from the P2 format - not this camera)

[Pat McGowan] "This might be interesting but it would only be native 100 mbps DVCPRO HD streamed via firewire not MXF, correct? "


correct


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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by Pat McGowan on Jun 19, 2006 at 2:09:42 am

Well Gary, there are lots of other data streams that might be possible (anamorphic DV, letterboxed DV) etc.. I see that the SDI output of this camera is supposed to support HD and SD output so I'm wondering if the same might hold true at the 1394 port.



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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by gary adcock on Jun 19, 2006 at 2:00:56 pm

[Pat McGowan] "Well Gary, there are lots of other data streams that might be possible (anamorphic DV, letterboxed DV) etc.. I see that the SDI output of this camera is supposed to support HD and SD output so I'm wondering if the same might hold true at the 1394 port."

Pat,
But I have said a number of times ( 2X in this message thread) that the FW port is only HD.
I was working with HDX900 Model# 00001 last week as part of the demo's at FletcherChicago.

The camera only supports a standard HD as DVCPROHD /100 MBPS over the FW port and nothing else. The camera can support HDSDI, SDI and Composite out of the Video port but only HD out of the FW port.

gary adcock
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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by gary adcock on Jun 19, 2006 at 2:00:57 pm

[Pat McGowan] "Well Gary, there are lots of other data streams that might be possible (anamorphic DV, letterboxed DV) etc.. I see that the SDI output of this camera is supposed to support HD and SD output so I'm wondering if the same might hold true at the 1394 port."

Pat,
But I have said a number of times ( 2X in this message thread) that the FW port is only HD.
I was working with HDX900 Model# 00001 last week as part of the demo's at FletcherChicago.

The camera only supports a standard HD as DVCPROHD /100 MBPS over the FW port and nothing else. The camera can support HDSDI, SDI and Composite out of the Video port but only HD out of the FW port.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL

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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by Pat McGowan on Jun 20, 2006 at 6:11:44 pm

Pardon me for being a bit thick Gary. Thanks for the confirmation.



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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by Pat McGowan on Jun 18, 2006 at 3:26:14 am

Hmmm, data to a firestore. This might be interesting but it would only be native 100 mbps DVCPRO HD streamed via firewire not MXF, correct?



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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by jordan82 on Jun 19, 2006 at 7:04:04 pm

Does anybody know if you will be able to simultaneously record 1080 23.38 to a FireStore drive AND to tape???

- Jordan



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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by gary adcock on Jun 19, 2006 at 8:50:18 pm

[jordan82] "Does anybody know if you will be able to simultaneously record 1080 23.38 to a FireStore drive AND to tape???"

Yes and No

Yes you can capture whatever format you choose to shoot to the Firestore and to a tape at the same time.

The HDX900 lays 1080i60 to tape-- so the format on the firestore would be the same.
You would have to use the pulldown removal in your NLE to get to a 23.98 psf video file.

XDCamHD does it the exact same way- only giving 1080i60 out the FW and SDI ports.

gary adcock
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Re: HDX900 Firewire port
by jordan82 on Jun 20, 2006 at 5:40:07 pm

[gary adcock] "The HDX900 lays 1080i60 to tape-- so the format on the firestore would be the same.
You would have to use the pulldown removal in your NLE to get to a 23.98 psf video file."


I am currently using Final Cut Pro as my NLE. If I recorded 1080i60 as you described, do I then CinemaTools to remove the pulldown? Will the resulting footage be the same as if I recorded 1080 23.98 in camera? What are the timecode issues for this workflow if I later need to recapture lost media from the tape backups? Thanks in advance for your time and answers!

- Jordan



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