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Mpeg-4 or Quicktime-7 or... ? for maximum Browser compatibility?
by rdomalpalli on Aug 26, 2007 at 11:23:51 am

Hi All,

I have a website that I people from different countries visit, and I was wondering what Format to encode in, so that I would get the maximum compatibility.

I have seen that H.264 in Quicktime 7 is the Best. But I am concerned that not everyone will have Quicktime 7. So, I have 2 questions..

1. Does anyone know what percentage of users will be able to view Quicktime 7 Compatibile footage?
2. I believe that Windows users will be able to view Mpeg-4 footage (Please correct me if I'm wrong here). Would you recommend that I put both files (Mpeg-4 and Quicktime-7), and call the first Windows and the other Quicktime-7?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Regards,
Rajnesh

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Re: Mpeg-4 or Quicktime-7 or... ? for maximum Browser compatibility?
by mike velte on Aug 26, 2007 at 2:23:14 pm

[rdomalpalli] "I was wondering what Format to encode in, so that I would get the maximum compatibility."

Windows Media Video 9 is the most compatible format (about 95%) of the computers can play it.

Mpeg 4 is a container for a myriad of codecs, the most popular is H264 and requires QT 7 to play. QT 7 is just a player.
Unless you are preaching to the choir (us media folks and Mac users), a lot of folks wont be able to watch your video.

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Re: Mpeg-4 or Quicktime-7 or... ? for maximum Browser compatibility?
by Stan Hirson on Aug 28, 2007 at 2:48:47 am

I have an international video site and I use Flash. I have had no problems with compatibility. The issue, I feel, is bitrate. I keep my videos at 512 kbs. The only people who have problems with this are rural visitors on dial-up and they are becoming fewer and fewer. 512 kbs will keep you in range of DSL.

You can see for yourself how the videos, at full 30fps, appear at http://hestakaup.com. The shorter videos are .swf files and the longer ones are .flv.

Stan Hirson

Stan Hirson
http://hestakaup.com

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Re: Mpeg-4 or Quicktime-7 or... ? for maximum Browser compatibility?
by Aharon Rabinowitz on Sep 9, 2007 at 12:08:32 am

Flash is always going to be an ideal soultion from pure numbers perspective- it's on 98% of computers connected to the web - however there have been issues with Flash on the Mac - doesn't always play properly. Especially at high bit rates.

Still, Stan is on the right track because most people can see it. Just to be safe, I always prefer one additional mac friendly format - such as MOV or MP4 using the H.264 codec.

However, recently Adobe announced that it's going to be adding H.264 encoding and decoding into flash - which means that flash (using the H.264 codec which looks great and plays well with the mac) will truly be the ideal single solution for reaching you're audience.

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h264 mpeg4 files not playing on macs, fine on PCs, why?
by Shayne Weyker on Nov 13, 2007 at 11:19:09 pm


Trying to follow the above advice I've been encoding stuff to h264 (with ipod compatibility on so I can offer the same file for ipod and web viewing) using adobe adobe media encoder from PPro CS3. Files like this:

http://realtime.rhsmith.umd.edu/media/podcasts/campaign/grx-speech-pres-mot...


Now I'm getting feedback that some mac users can't play the mp4 files adobe media encoder produces, getting a string of garbage text on their screen. It's as if their computer never heard of mp4 file type even though in one case I've been told a user with this problem installed the latest QT player.

I see that QT player has the option to recognize mp4 media or not. But why would any mac user turn this off?

What should I do? Rename the file to .mov? That has the disadvantage that it breaks a few links out there...

Can I make an h264 .mp4 with adobe media encoder that will behave on all reasonably modern macs?

--Shayne Weyker
http://weykervideo.com

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