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Re: Editing scenario
by
Simon Ubsdell
on May 15, 2012 at 8:47:39 pm
[Walter Soyka]
" I understand that FCPX doesn't have traditional PIOPs, but it does have another mechanism for preserving IOPs, so the same editorial operations can still be accomplished."
I think it's important while accepting that favorites go some way towards answering this question to acknowledge that it's not nearly as clean as it might be when you are dealing with multiple edit decisions within the same source clip.
Surely most editors have the need to try out different edit selections (often only an I or an O and not a range) and having to favorite to keep these selections more or less persistent means having to deal with the limitations implicit in favoriting.
For example, you cannot favorite within an already favorited region without first unfavoriting. This is surely a significant drawback. What if I wanted to keep the favorite that I was unfavoriting but use it for later?
Another example which I keep coming back to because nobody seems to want to give me an answer about it is what to do when you only want to select an I or an O and favoriting under those circumstances means selecting the whole clip forwards or backwards. Am I (again) missing something that I am seeing this as an undesirable consequence of the favoriting "solution"?
I do wonder whether the better solution isn't favoriting at all but rather the judicious use of markers ...
Simon Ubsdell
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by Oliver Peters on May 14, 2012 at 10:04:42 pm
Re: Editing scenario
by Richard Herd on May 14, 2012 at 4:08:44 pm
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