Re: What are you thinking about CS6?

Track based effects are very useful, but for me, track based volume changes are useless, as I find I edit picture and mix audio concurrently, right up to delivery.

To avoid the horror of ramping and dipping audio with a pen tool and nodes (unless fixing spikes etc.), automated changes either with an external mixer or the inbuilt faders are essential. And for this to be useful, volume changes need to be written into the clip files. Otherwise a remix is necessary every time audio is moved.

I can't see how moving track based volume automation 'in sync' with clips could be a viable solution either, as clips can change tracks, depending on how the audio overlaps when placed in new positions. I could imagine sudden volume changes being an issue too.

A method of writing track volume changes into clips would work, but this is no different to mixing clip volume directly. When do you ever need to mix the silence between the clips?

Having spent the last 5 years or so mixing multiple audio 'tracks' real time with FCP, in my case with a Mackie Control Surface, I really do not want to go back to endless fiddling with node based audio changes and early onset RSI.

For my workflow at least, this is still a major flaw with PPro, and the only thing stopping me adopt it wholeheartedly.

Belatedly, Ken.