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Dennis RadekeRe: What are you thinking about CS6?
by on May 2, 2012 at 12:15:58 am

Will try to provide some answers and start at the top...

Dave Lawrence - thank you for such gracious words. We strive to gain and keep people's trust.

Franz - "How is it for audio, particularly mixing?"


As others pointed out, we are a track based mixer as opposed to a clip based mixer. We do understand that many FCP and Avid people want a clip mixer and we will see what happens. That aside, the audio capabilities of Premiere Pro are pretty good and much more advanced than other tools in many ways. submix, inserts & sends, and some solid post automation including touch and latch are a couple of the things I like.

As for audio handling, I really like to think that with this release we have taken a leadership position. We've always been able to handle unlimited tracks, but now we're handling multi-channel audio much more effectively. For example, I can handle 8-trk AVC-Intra clips and express the audio in ANY way I want - 4 stereo, 8 mono, single 8-track wave or any combination. Same on output. Really happy about that one. It's a bit complicated to grasp at first, but once you get it, it's really super.

Lance - Audio + Audition

round trip behavior between Audition and PRemiere Pro remains the same which is pretty good. Audition got a bunch of cool features including our auto dialog alignment tool which is great for ADR.

Chris Harlan on clip volume

Yes, you have clip based adjustments available on the clip itself in the timeline. Not quite the same as a clip-based mixer, but not awful.

Adobe moving into the high-end

I've replied in other threads. Will summarize by saying we are making significant strides and seek to win the trust of Hollywood and other film makers. We're in deeply in broadcast and growing that now.

Walter "One thing I'd mention, though -- a lot of people are comparing Pr CS6 to the erstwhile FCP8, but I think it's important to remember that this is not actually FCP. There are a few differences (like the natural inclination for all-native workflow and the attendant render upon output, for example) that FCP users will have to learn, but I think Adobe has done an outstanding job of improving Pr (and incorporating some good ideas from other NLEs) without losing their own philosophy on editorial."

TOTALLY agree. Adobe wants to intelligently support the most important aspects of other applications while giving users innovative and new ways to do things where it makes sense. The trimming in CS6 is a great example of where we attempted to adopt much of what made Avid trimming great but also make it better, easier and intuitive to grasp as well.

Franz "I'm encouraged by what I hear and see but still skeptical until the test of practice, particularly with respect to large projects and also audio handling / mixing."


We agree which is why we want users to use the free trial when they need a good evaluation.

David Jahns - Adobe solutions on NVIDIA are terrific and the Speedgrade solution there is VERY nice. however, I agree that not having support for AJA, BMD, Matrox, etc is a bummer. Fact is, that we just didn't have enough time to do what we wanted with Speedgrade. We have a long list of future enhancements and one of the top ones is definitely other card support.

Herb - I'd suggest you spend some significant time with our three-way color corrector which is really what the main feature of Symphony vs. MC6 is all about (at least as I understand it).

Okay - back to some email... sorry!

Dennis - Adobe guy


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