Re: On Luddites and the Use of Machines: Apropos of FCPX

[Bill Davis] "If that's true Herb, then we should have seen all the traffic here migrate to the Premier and Vegas, and AVID boards. "
Go check out the PPro board and you'll find a bunch of the names that used to pop up here last spring.

[Bill Davis] "Legacy EOL has been a fact for the best part of a year. Plenty of time for people to have left it for another program. "
Actually, it's not. I want to change, but I'm still committed to Legacy for now. I was hoping to be able to switch before June, when we start our next season, but that's dependent on what happens in April. It's possible, though I am loath to admit it, that I will still be on Legacy for another year. I don't think I'm that rare a case.

[Bill Davis] "People who hang here are a lot of things, but stupid isn't typically one of them."
No, it's precisely because the people who come here aren't stupid that I like to come here. As you may have noticed from various threads some people want to rename this forum to something more general that reflects that very large net of concerns under discussion. As time goes on, X itself seems to me to be a smaller part of the ongoing dialogue.

[Bill Davis] "If you look back carefully on the posts here. it's about half a dozen folks who keep trashing it. And about the same number of us who regularly praise it. We're not getting legions of new commenters. NOR are we loosing much steam."
This is true of the last 6 months or so, but we have lost a lot of the original posters. Check out the all the names that were here last summer - where have they gone?

[Bill Davis] "I'd argue that the health of this board is ABSOLUTE proof of the "intrinsic" merit of X. It's sparked and generated the largest on-going on-line debate of NLE design, structure and use that any of us have ever seen."
You'd argue and I'd disagree. I'd argue that if this product was released by Boris or Grass Valley you'd never have heard of it, much less used it. I'd further argue that if Apple had released this product concurrent with ongoing support of Legacy this "debate" forum would be unnecessary. This forum is testament to the power of Apple and the dominance of FCP. The Techniques forum is proof of the merit of X, and that forum is quite busy indeed.

[Bill Davis] "as important new hardware and OS improvements are released in the Apple world - the FCP-X development team - being on the INSIDE after all, will be able to take advantage of those before the software teams from other vendors."
Now there's a laugh if ever I heard one. That was the concept that made me buy Legacy in the first place, and we can see how well that paid off. Walter, Craig and Jeremy are going on and on about how the OS team and the Pro Aps people never even talk to one another and your claiming that relationship is an advantage for Apple? It's like the last year never happened. If this past year is what it's like to be on the inside, I shall endeavor to stay as far outside as I can henceforth.

[Bill Davis] "If five years from now, we're all on smaller, tablet based OS devices, I'm willing to bet that Apple has better touch screen video editing than Redmond."
My best guess is that in 5 years I will be editing on Linux boxes and saying a pox on both their houses.

[Bill Davis] "Maybe I'll see you at NAB. If so I'll buy the first round."
Wish I could make it but it's not to be this year. You'll have to drink for the both of us.

Herb Sevush
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