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Re: Illustrator turns 25 today. Thoughts on it, Luddites and FCP X
by
Richard Herd
on Mar 27, 2012 at 10:21:26 pm
[Franz Bieberkopf]
"straw man"
There's no straw man there, which means he builds the contradictory point of view in order to knock it down. Instead, we get his subjective experience. This is not imply the existence of an entity named "objective experience." (See also existential fallacy.)
Are you unconvinced by his inability to establish ethos? Perhaps.
He is also a fine contributor to the FCPX techniques forum and has obviously been using the software in an advanced way. His techniques actually work, and if he says FCPX makes him feel like it did when he learned Illustrated, then I believe him. In no way does he imply that you or I must also feel like he felt and feels.
While I'm on the topic, it's really difficult for anyone who hasn't actually worked (not toyed with, worked) in X to say anything convincing about it or critique it because it is impossible to establish ethos. Jim's well documented issues are a fine example...as are mine. The absurdist line of reasoning (ergo, business decisions of folks who had to buy something) so far has been humorous and twinged with lament; as if Waiting for Godot is now Waiting for Apple.
To be sure: I really don't care what editing system, power saw, hammer anyone uses.
I would however love to read the license agreements between apple and the developers who collaborated (if you will) to deliver FCP Legacy.
All in brotherly love!
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