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Re: Working Over the weekend... NOW: Back to Mac Pro speculation
by
Chris Harlan
on Dec 3, 2011 at 10:36:56 pm
Craig, you really weirdly focused. If I were buying stock, this is the conversation we should be having. Also, I wasn't pushing Avid, though you seem to think so. I don't know how we got here, but lets go point by point and put this to rest.
[Craig Seeman]
"Can Avid meet your needs if they fold?"
Yes. Im my ecosystem, which is Hollywood and environs, Avid is so entrenched--and is, by far, the most use NLE--that if the company folded tomorrow, it would still be a useful system for the next five years. It is built into the infrastructure of Hollywood, far more deeply than FCP7, its closest rival. But why assume that Avid id going to fold? Could it? Certainly. These are tough times for many companies. But they are hardly out. And, there chief competitor has shot their chief competition in the head. So who knows. But, yeah, I'm fine with Avid (and FCP7) for the next five years. And, even if I'm not there are a number of other edit systems out there that do what I need better than FCP X currently does.
[Craig Seeman]
"Adobe and Apple though are both healthy. They both have ecosystem approaches although Adobe is software based and Apple is tied into hardware."
Great. No one uses FCP X or Premiere in the world I work in, so however healthy they happen to be in their ecosystems, they are dead in mine. But, I'm grateful to have Premiere there, since it offers a viable alternative to FCP7 and Media Composer. If Avid ever does upend, Premiere will be there to give us what we need. And, because Adobe isn't tied to an island platform, I know I'll be able to find a workstation I can use, long after OS X has become iOS XI. I know that you think that FCP X may someday be up to snuff--and it might--but a multitude of signs aren't pointing in that direction.
[Craig Seeman]
"What is offered to meet your needs is very much dependent on the company business models.
Discreet(Autodesk) Edit met needs. Many like it. They left the market."
Yeah, and it was a bad move. But WHAT is your point? Companies do things for all kinds of motives. I get that understanding what their motives are is important for investment. I mean, duh. Even this forum seems to be chiefly about coming to terms with what Apple's intentions are. So, it is not like we are not aware of that.
[Craig Seeman]
"The business model is inescapable and inextricably tied to meeting needs. Any separation is an artifice of language in my opinion."
Right. Which is why a lot of people sincerely doubt that professional high-end NLE is any kind of certain future with Apple, with either their NLE or their hardware.
[Craig Seeman]
"Companies offer what meets THEIR needs as well and if it doesn't meet their needs they won't offer something that meets yours."
Certainly. But what is important for ME at the end of the day, is if FCP X meets my needs.
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