Re: Working Over the weekend... NOW: Back to Mac Pro speculation

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[Frank Gothmann] "Not true, you can read or burn bd-r right from the finder, the same way you'd burn a data dvd or cd. They just don't support encrypted playback of movie discs but that is unrelated to the physical media as such. But Apple doesn't like any optical media per se anymore. And if they consider it legacy it has to go. Again, I prefer to make my own decissions."

And you can. Buy this and this:

http://www.macblurayplayer.com/
http://fastmac.com/slim_bluray.php

I didn't know about BluRay from the Finder. I guess you learn something new everyday. I think I have been asked to make a BluRay once and I certainly wouldn't use it for archiving, but maybe that's just me. if it keeps the overall cost of the system down and I don't need it, then I guess it's a win? If I had to, I know where to get it.

[Frank Gothmann] "Choice, give people the freedom of choice to watch and listen to stuff they way they want to and how they want to, not exclusively the way Apple wants them to."

And you do have the choice, you just can't buy that privilege directly from Apple for whatever reason. I can't buy my Aja cards from the (virtual/brick&mortar) Apple Stores, either. I don't mind.

[Frank Gothmann] "Again, brings me right back to my point regarding server hardware. More people would buy it if it wasn't outdated and neglected. We would have bought two last month; we went with HP instead. And more of our machines will follow in the future."

And Apple themselves did the same in their monster server rooms as they wanted out of that sector of that business. They made that decision. The MacPro and the XServe are different, with some overlap of course. And didn't you hear? You can use a MacMini to run a server room!! Just kidding, really (kinda).

[Frank Gothmann] "I am just surprised people still wonder wether Apple is still interested in pro users and creating specific hard- and software for their needs."

Yeah, but don't you think they'd be interested in people using Mac's but not necessarily their software? Like people in Medical/Aerospace/Programming? Video peoples aren't the only ones who use MacPros even though we like to think we are. And what about the people that don't use FCP? Don't you think Apple would like a room full of MacPros to run the nightly news on Avid or Premiere or whatever?

[Frank Gothmann] "If they (ie. us) can make it work for them, either via 3rd party or workarounds, fine, let them swim along. But it's not conceived, designed and built for their needs."

And my point is, was it ever really built for their needs exclusively? In my opinion no, the MacPro was always a bit of a compromise when compared to similar PC based hardware. You could always add more and faster to a PC than you could with a Mac without buying a whole new box. This is not new, and not much has changed, but perhaps our perspectives in the game have changed.