Re: Working Over the weekend... NOW: Back to Mac Pro speculation

[Jeremy Garchow] "We have to be honest with ourselves here, Frank. This is Apple. They aren't going to offer an unsupported piece of custom hardware and say, "you figure it out". BluRay is available on a Mac all through third party. Apple does have limited support burning in some of the pro video software, though. "

Not true, you can read or burn bd-r right from the finder, the same way you'd burn a data dvd or cd. They just don't support encrypted playback of movie discs but that is unrelated to the physical media as such. But Apple doesn't like any optical media per se anymore. And if they consider it legacy it has to go. Again, I prefer to make my own decissions.

[Jeremy Garchow] "Yeah, could be. iTunes will make them exponentially more money than a BluRay burner. Yeah, they made a decision, and it was probably a good business decision. I don't know. "

BD playback or burning data on bd-r is obviously not meant to be the exclusive alternative to the itunes store. I think you know where I am coming from. Choice, give people the freedom of choice to watch and listen to stuff they way they want to and how they want to, not exclusively the way Apple wants them to.

[Jeremy Garchow] "Again, let's be honest. If the MacPro truly brings no money, why sell it?"

Again, brings me right back to my point regarding server hardware. More people would buy it if it wasn't outdated and neglected. We would have bought two last month; we went with HP instead. And more of our machines will follow in the future.
The viral marketing that made Apple can also backfire. Not enough right now because our community is way to small but I am waiting to see their first big consumer product tank. One the brand isn't cool anymore and hip crowd moves on... we'll see.

[Jeremy Garchow] "This is still Apple. It has always been this way. I don't know why it is so surprising."

But I am not saying it is surprising. In fact, quite the oposite. It's Apple doing what they have always done, just in a much more severe way because they can now afford to simply piss off a group of people which, 10 years ago, made up a good portion of their customer base. The creative crow used to benefit from their ways, not they are on the dry end and it's consumer stuff all the way. It's been pretty clear to me since the iphone and ipad. I am just surprised people still wonder wether Apple is still interested in pro users and creating specific hard- and software for their needs.
If they (ie. us) can make it work for them, either via 3rd party or workarounds, fine, let them swim along. But it's not conceived, designed and built for their needs.