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Re: Help. FCP and AF REDone workflow on MBP (clueless)

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Re: Help. FCP and AF REDone workflow on MBP (clueless)
by Russell Lasson on Jul 6, 2009 at 7:39:22 pm

[Max Sainvil] "1. Where do I start? I’ve download all the red programs and updated my FCP to 6.0.5. This project is for both DVD and/or Blu Ray. "

I would suggest finishing at 1080/23.98P. You also need to decide how you're going to finish. Do you have a budget for a post house to use something like Scratch to finish your project or do you need to finish/color it yourself. That will determine the workflow.

[Max Sainvil] "2. Can I offline edit in my system? Macbook Pro, Mac OS X 10.5.7 2.4 GHZ Intel core 2 duo, 4 GB in memory, 750 External Seagate HD (eSATA). "

Yes. But how you decide to process the files for offline will depend on if you're doing the color yourself in FCP or Color, or if you're sending it out to a post house.

[Max Sainvil] "3. How do I offline edit, then online edit? I’m new to that. Never done that before. "

If you finish on your own, then read the RED FCP whitepaper on RED's support site. Walks you though the different workflow options. If you're finishing at a different post house, contact them and ask them how they'd like you to offline edit.

We suggest for our clients that they process clips using REDRushes or Clipfinder to ProRes SQ at either SD, 720, or 1080. Then when the edit is complete, they send us the RAW RED files, a reference movie and an edl so we can conform/color in Scratch (or they just send us the whole project and we'll take care of it).

If you're finishing on your own, you might consider importing everying through the FCP log and transfer to ProRes and then just finishing from those files. If you're finishing somewhere else, I'd convert everything to ProRes SQ in SD at quarter res using Clipfinder or REDRushes.

[Max Sainvil] "4. Can I offline edit on my MBP then go to a Post Production House and export “online”? "

Many post houses can do this for you.

[Max Sainvil] "5. How do I offline edit back and forth from FCP to AF and back to FCP? Basically, I have effects needed to be done in After Effects (latest version). All the selected green screen footage. "

I would bring the R3D files into After Effects and pull the key from those files. Expect long render times. You'll need to download the RED plug-in I believe from the RED Support page.

[Max Sainvil] "6. I’m new to Color. Should I use FCP color correction instead? Or should I quickly learn Color? Is one better then the other? "

Color is a much more powerful program than FCP. Whether you want to learn it depends on whether you want to try to do things yourself. A proper Color setup should include a properly calibrated monitor and an proper output device (like an AJA card).

[Max Sainvil] "7. What is the order of the workflow? Should I go from Redcine to color, then to FCP and back to Color, then from Color to exporting on FCP? I know somewhere in between I have to go from FCP to AF and back to FCP. My head is going to explode. "

Read the RED FCP whitepaper. I would edit offline, then when ready, take the green screen stuff into AE and do the compositing. Then render back for FCP, or render DPX files out for a post house to bring in for color.

[Max Sainvil] "8. Can I change the speed from 100fps to 24fps? Some shots were accidentally shoot in 100fps. Actually its all the green screen stuff. The DP told me I can, but just don’t know what would be the best way to go about it. "

You shot at 100fps to a 24fps file. So the file that you ended up with is actually slowed down 416%. To get back to a normal speed, you should change the speed by 416% (100 divided by 24). Different programs change it by different numbers, but I would suggest using AE for this. This might not match the other footage very well as it was a different frame rate and will have a different feel to it.

[Max Sainvil] "9. Should I just down convert to 1080i just to keep things moving faster in postproduction? Will that affect the whole Red experiences in quality and color? Is 1080i and 2k that big of a different? Whatever works for me to get started quicker… especially for the editing system I have. "

Set your resolution to 1920x1080 for finishing. Don't even worry about the whole 2k thing.

-Russ


Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
Salt Lake City, UT
www.colormill.net


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