OK, we can start this again.
Last time it was about the 300:
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/193/874295
You're right about Red, it's a very smart way to think about things, but there's still only the Red One to talk about as the truly modular 'brain' system isn't out yet, and still unproven. No doubt that will change in time, but it's silly to speculate on something that you can't use today especially in a production environment. I don't see Red's listed in your rental inventory. If you have one, is it renting?
You better believe Panasonic is listening. They would be silly not to look at Red and see what's going on over there. I also believe that Red and Panasonic have totally different market segments (celluloid film replacement vs TV), but what do I know.
The P2 system is a well thought out system. From first glance, it might seem crazy, the more you learn and know about what they have done, the system starts to look very very smart. Do you understand the MXF format, and further, do you understand Panasonic's implementation of MXF?
It is obvious that you don't have much experience in the post arena which is a huge consideration when thinking about the entire production pipe line. Working with Red files is a lot more time consuming and cumbersome than P2.
You mentioned about P2 camera being viable in 10-15 years. 10-15 years? Who cares? Gone are the days of one format that can last 10-15 years and also gone is the idea of future proofing. Things are still being shaken out and moving too fast to future proof anything, as the future quite literally means tomorrow. Tomorrow, something else will be invented and brought to market that will obsolete the latest and greatest. There are so many options and choices out there that it makes it hard to make smart decisions. The sheer amount of research that has been done in order to understand all these new formats is extremely daunting and next to impossible for some people. There's simply not enough time in the day to look around and also go make money. On the other hand, if there weren't options and choices and all we had were tape based HDV cameras, we'd all be complaining about why we are stuck with HDV when it's obvious there's better technology out there.
As far as Panasonic's price drop, yeah, it is a sign of the times. The market drives the price in this economy. Look around, everyone is slashing prices on bug ticket items. Good time to buy if you have the means. You have stated a lot of points as fact, do you really know Panasonic's camera sales figures? Do you know they aren't selling cameras? They might not be selling the high end 3700, but I don't think they intended to put those in the hands of every shooter worldwide. It's not that type of camera.
Also, in your experience, what is wrong with AVC-Intra? Just curious as you said "don't get me started" but I'd like to hear about your experience with it.
[Erich Roland] "and many, many conversations with my customers has brought me to this place of questioning the logic of current features/designs and how we arrived here"
What are they saying? Again, just curious.
Jeremy
