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Elliott DunwodyProcessing Speeds
by on Nov 11, 2002 at 5:41:15 pm

You see I used the word process instead of render.

Anyway, What kind of render times are you guys getting on the Media 100 ICE based filters that come with the system?

Elliott


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Jason PhelpsRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 18, 2002 at 8:44:26 pm

Elliot,
The ICE filters are not that fast. In fact, I am a little disappointed in the lack of speed. EVERYTHING about the 844X is faster than the XR I used to edit on.

The reason I have been given for the lack of speed is that the ICE plugins use the host processor(s) not the 844X hardware. I am not sure it even takes advantage of the dual processors in the workstation hence the lack of speed. I have it on good faith from M100 they are working on getting the effects on the 844X hardware.

With that said, the other operations are way beyond fast. Just last week I completed a project with 7 layers of video composited pretty much throughout the entire video which was 7 minutes long. Didn't use the ICE effects, weren't needed this time.

Long story short, had two days to complete project. Left halfway through day one because my daughter was ill. Came back next day, finished video went home on time. Life is good.

In fact, I go home on time a lot more.

The "X" (as I affectionately refer to it) processed the 7 layers in "almost real time" 5 minutes of video took about 5:10 to process. The best part was when I made a couple tweaks to dissolves, it only re-processed the dissolve. Taking seconds.

The same effect on the XR would have required After Effects, and a lot more time to render. Tweaks? Re-render.

By the way my producer was stunned at how quickly I was able to change the look of the composite to experiment. We would never have done that with the dual stream XR.

Are there a few things that need improvement? Yes. I also believe M100 is working to improve them and I am going to encourage them to do so.

Off topic: I have had excellent customer support from Media 100 in the past and currently. The folks at Tech Support call back to check on problems and are trying get all the information they can to resolve issues.


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Scott DonahueRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 18, 2002 at 9:56:44 pm

Hi all,

You may be interested to know that while 844/X does process plug-ins via software, the processing is done upstream of the media.

This means that any additional changes that you make with the real-time effects after the plug-in is rendered, don't require any reprocessing of the plug-in. Other plug-ins can be added above the processed plug-in, and time is saved when the original plug-in does not have to be re-rendered again. This is much more efficient and FASTER way to do it this in the long run.

Hope this helps!
Best Regards.

Scott Donahue
Media 100 Customer Advocate &
Manager of Customer Resources and Development

http://www.media100.com/advocate.asp?PR=DS
http://www.media100.com/advocate.asp?PR=844X


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Elliott DunwodyRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 18, 2002 at 10:32:58 pm

Thanks for the reply. We are taking my Panasonic HD deck to Atlanta tomorrow just to see if all the drivers work for it. After that, well, I will have no more excuses, except one. I am a big Boris user and I only hope, and will pester greatly to get that working:)

Elliott


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FlohRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 19, 2002 at 11:01:05 pm

What do you do in boris most?

Because I can´t imagine much which you can do in Boris but not in 844/X. Take a look at it.


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Philip HodgettsRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 20, 2002 at 2:03:33 am

Cubes, spheres, cylinders, 3D extrusions of text and spline-drawn shapes. A true 3D space with intersecting solids, motion tracking (very good motion tracking)

and that's scratching the surface of Boris RED. 844/X is very good at what it does, Boris RED is very good at what it does and I would be very happy to see RED implemented in 844/X, it would be a complement for features that are likely not on the drawing board (I'm thinking mostly the 3D stuff).



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Elliott DunwodyRe: Processing Speeds
by on Nov 21, 2002 at 1:39:50 am


Lots and Lots of titling,vector text, splines,and motion tracking. Its just a great program and would blow Inscriber out of the water. 844/X is heading toward some 3D I understand and Boris would be a great partner in that.

I did look at 844/X. In fact I drove it around the block. Got it on the interstate a blew everybodys doors off.

I ordered a red one with a black stripe today.

Elliott
Bright Blue Sky Productions


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