| REEL DVD motion menu questions
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by charles on Oct 30, 2002 at 9:52:05 am |
I made the plunge and bought REEL DVD but can't make it work.
I want to start by doing the following simple project: Put a single small video clip (1minute)button on the start page that when selected , links to a longer video clip. The background on the start page will be a photoshop photo.
How many PSD files do I need to create? How many layers? Transparent or white? I understand I have to use the button tool to create a space for my small video clip. REEL accepts the clip but I never see it. Neither in the preview window nor on the burned dvd. What am I doing wrong?
I've read the REEL DVD tutorials on dailycreative.com and crazypants.com and still can't make it work.
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• | | | |  | Re: REEL DVD motion menu questions by mike velte on Oct 30, 2002 at 2:42:46 pm |
First, ReelDVD does not support .psd files for still images. They must be .bmp, .tiff, .tga, .jpeg pr .pict. I dont think the DVD specs support .psd files at all. However many authoring apps like ReelDVD use .psd files for subpictures like menu buttons.
If your first play item is a still menu, then drop a .bmp (720X480) on the storyboard. Now open this.bmp in Photoshop, create a new layer and make one button with a 2 bit color (pure black, red, white or blue). Create a new layer for each new button. Turn off the background layer and Merge Visible and save as a .psd.
My favorite buttons are simply rectangles that cover completely the text menu item. Once back in Reel, I make the display color invisible and the Selection color only slightly opaque. This makes it easy for the viewer to navigate without a lot of clutter.
Drop this ontop of your menu.bmp in the storyboard. Then go back and read those 2 tutorial again.
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• | | | |  | Re: REEL DVD motion menu questions by WTS(JManz) on Oct 30, 2002 at 7:59:35 pm |
It's hard to describe doing something that is easier to show. The tutorial that comes with ReelDVD is very helpful, and if you analyze the menu structure on some of their samples, it will help. ReelDVD does accept PSD files as still or slide show assets, it will however flatten the image if it has layers. You can create layered PSD files that have menu buttons, and as mike velte posted, you need to use one of four colors (really three since ReelDVD treats pure white as transparent) to define how your buttons will play/display. The other colors are pure black (RGB: 0,0,0), red (255,0,0), and blue (0,0,255). I personally bring in my menus without using the layered PSD technique, and define the order of my buttons manually. Perhaps if you have a sample menu you could email me, I could send an example back that you could look at the PSD structure and get a better idea. CrazyPants and James Dailey's tutorials are also very good walkthroughs, and I would re-look at them as well.
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• | | | |  | Re: REEL DVD motion menu questions by John K Jordan on Oct 31, 2002 at 12:18:56 am |
> ...Put a single small video clip (1minute)button on
> the start page that when selected , links to a longer
> video clip. The background on the start page will be
> a photoshop photo.
I'm relatively new to ReelDVD, but I don't see any way to use a small (sub-screen sized) video clip on a full-screen Photoshop background.
If you look at the assets in the ReelDVD Shipwreck tutorial, you'll see the motion main and scenes menus are nothing more than short (full screen) video clips that loop over and over.
For example, look at one of the scenes menus. The background, the button frames, and the little videos on the buttons are all part of a short full screen video clip. Such a video clip can be made in nearly any video editing software.
Load the files into Photoshop and look at the layers. The Photoshop files in the motion menus are only used to define the button highlights, not the backgrounds. However, layered Photoshop files are used to define both the backgrounds and button highlights of the still credits and weblink menus.
So to make the one minute video clip on a button that you mentioned, make a one minute video clip that has a full-frame still background, the button graphics, and a little picture-in-a-picture window with your moving video clip. Make a Photoshop or BMP file with just the button highlight.
JKJ
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• | | | |  | Re: REEL DVD motion menu questions by Tyler A. Hawes on Oct 31, 2002 at 1:06:47 am |
To make that type of menu (thumnail videos on a still or video background) you need to use another program (an NLE or compositer, such as After Effects) to composite the video clips together and then encode the finished video as MPEG2. You then import the video as the background layer of the menu. The subpicture overlay will need to be a 2-bit red/blue/black/white still image. This is what the DVD spec supports.
Tyler A. Hawes
Audio Intervisual Design
18 Years Integrating for Film, Television, DVD & Music Production
West Hollywood, CA: (323) 845-1155
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• | | | |  | Re: REEL DVD motion menu questions by WTS(JManz) on Oct 31, 2002 at 1:20:09 am |
Reading John's answer, I think I understand your question better. John's right, motion menus like the one you are trying to create are made primarily in your non-linear editor, and the photoshop file is only for defining your buttons/highlights. You would bring your photoshop background(or any graphic image background for that matter) into video track one of your NLE, and overlay the short 1 minute clip of video in track 2 on top of the background. You would have to resize and position the video, and depending on your NLE/system, can be done in a number of ways. You would output your 1 minute clip as an m2v file and import it into ReelDVD on the storyboard. Once there, scroll through the video (by left clicking on the icon on the storyboard to select the asset, and then down below in the timeline window scroll through the video while watching the monitor). You can export as a bitmap a representative image from your video stream, and use that bitmap in Photoshop as a 'target' to create your button highlights. By doing it this way, you won't have to worry about the fact that dv uses rectangular pixels, and graphic images like those created in PS, generally use square ones. Create a new transparent layer above the background bitmap 'target', and using pure black, blue, or red; create a button or highlight that is associated with the small video. When you are done creating the button, just delete the background layer, and you will then be left with just the transparent layer with your 'button'. Save it as a PS file. When you go back to ReelDVD, just drag and drop that PS file on top of your motion menu. You now have a sub-picture on top of your motion menu and you need to define the button. On the lower right hand side below the monitor is a selection tool that will allow you to draw a rectangular box around the subpicture to define the button. You need to tell ReelDVD what to do with your subpicture/button with the three states a button can have: display, active, and selection. You will notice on the lower right hand side below the monitor several diamond shaped icons that will allow you to do this. The manual is helpful in directing you on how to adjust each of these if you need to, otherwise ReelDVD will just use it's preset defaults.
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• | | | |  | Thanks a bunch guys!! I'll give that a try...NT by charles on Nov 1, 2002 at 8:10:51 am |
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• | | | |  | Not out of the woods yet!! by charles on Nov 1, 2002 at 12:24:57 pm |
WTS...I'm following your suggestions.
I'm trying to put several small repeating thumbnail video clips on on a still background to be exported to REEL DVD. I'm using Premiere 6.5. In REEL DVD each thumbnail vid clip will be a button linking to a full screen full length video. So far I've been able to put the small clips onto a still background by using the "effect controls" window and selecting motion. I then set zoom to 20 percent and delay 100 percent. I also set the start and end points the same. Everything works fine. The only way I could find to make the clips repeat is to put several of the same clip on each video track. Five tracks total, 5 different clips, 4 clips per track.
The only problem might occur if the dvd user doesn't make a choice before the thumbnails stops playing. i could place more clips on each track and/or extend the length of each clip but thats wasting precious disc space and/or resolution. Is there a better way to do this that I'm not seeing.
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• | | | |  | Re: Not out of the woods yet!! by Sharon on Nov 1, 2002 at 3:36:04 pm |
First of all - in Premiere - Put each clip only once - you want to make the menu clip as short and as small as you can - and let reeldvd loop it - and not premiere.
Second - import the clip to ReelDVD as a motion menu. and attach the "Next" path from that clip to itself - so that when it finishes playing it'll repeat itself over and over again - until the user will make a selection (to move forward , backward - or whatever you want him to be able to do)
Be simple, Be Creative, Be.
Sharon Lev
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• | | | |  | Re: Not out of the woods yet!! by WTS(JManz) on Nov 1, 2002 at 3:52:49 pm |
What I generally do for a motion clip is make a similar picture in picture style motion menu via Premiere, and have it last a total of 25-45 seconds. That's generally enough time for someone to make a choice, and if they haven't, I would suggest what Sharon posted--define the 'next' link of that motion menu back onto itself so it will repeat until a choice is made. If you make your motion menu long enough, most viewers won't even see it loop back onto itself.
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• | | | |  | O.K....got it...works great!! NT by charles on Nov 2, 2002 at 9:25:24 am |
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