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jean hauptmanPrinting with Archival inks
by on Sep 25, 2004 at 4:49:11 pm

Any of you guys interested in printing your stuff
with hi quality archival inks that will last for a few
hundred years? (ok, no snickers)

I've been on HP's case to put their fine archival inks in
cartridges that can be used on affordable printers.
Right now, they can only be used on printers going
at around $17,000.

I've been experimenting with prints - painting and
doing all kinds of weird stuff.
really, really fun - but don't want to sell anything
that will fade quickly.

Epson has what it claims to be archival ink, that
work on their $600 printers. But as I understand,
the HP inks hold up years longer.

If any of you guys are interested, I'll try to get an
email address and we can lobby.


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David ReynoldsRe: Printing with Archival inks
by on Sep 29, 2004 at 6:35:46 pm

A company named Lyson makes an archival pigment ink for Epson for the mid range Epson printers, but the delivery system costs almost as much as the printer. The upside is that when you get the system installed, you can buy ink in bulk at a much cheaper cost / print.

I suspect that no matter how good the ink is, you will need to treat the finished art like a water color and protect the print from UV light.

My approach has been to treat computer art prints as a kind of ephemera and price accordingly. If you have a work that needs high quality archival treatment (and a customer willing to pay) there are service bureaus that can do the printing for you.

I agree, however, that it would be nice to have a low cost solution for archival printing :)

David

David Reynolds
Promotions Designer
KATV - Little Rock AR


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jean hauptmanRe: Printing with Archival inks
by on Sep 29, 2004 at 9:02:21 pm

David-

Thanks for getting back.

I don't know if the Epson Archival inks are the same as Lyson. I'll try to
google & look for their specs.

According to specs, the Espon inks hold up for about 60 years -
(better than their regular ink which seems to fade within a year or so.)

The HP archival inks reportedly hold up for 2 centuries.

HP still hasn't gotten back. But if anyone wants to lobby, the email address
for their consumer relations is info.sa@hp.com

Speaking of printing, I just enrolled in a course in silk screening.
The instructor was an assistant to Andy Warhol's printer.


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David ReynoldsRe: Printing with Archival inks
by on Sep 30, 2004 at 8:09:33 pm

A friend of mine has been experimenting with refilling old printer cartridges with watercolor and ink solutions. So far her experiments have been more interesting than useful... Don't try it with anything but a cheap printer, as it can gunk things up if it goes wrong.

Serigraphy is great fun. You should be able to use image-setter output to expose screens. Back when I did screen printing, in the pre-computer dark ages, I spent many an evening cutting designs into screen film. I still have the scars (literally) to prove it.

David

David Reynolds
Promotions Designer
KATV Channel 7

(501) 324-7722


David Reynolds
Promotions Designer
KATV - Little Rock AR


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David ReynoldsRe: Printing with Archival inks
by on Sep 30, 2004 at 8:12:06 pm

A friend of mine has been experimenting with refilling old printer cartridges with watercolor and ink solutions. So far her experiments have been more interesting than useful... Don't try it with anything but a cheap printer, as it can gunk things up if it goes wrong.

Serigraphy is great fun. You should be able to use image-setter output to expose screens. Back when I did screen printing, in the pre-computer dark ages, I spent many an evening cutting designs into screen film. I still have the scars (literally) to prove it.

David


David Reynolds
Promotions Designer
KATV - Little Rock AR


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jean hauptmanRe: Printing with Archival inks
by on Sep 30, 2004 at 8:29:49 pm

That sounds interesting. I was thinking about doing something similar
with india inks, but would need an extra printer to ruin.
I've been experimenting wetting the back of prints, transferring the
dye to other paper, and painting and overprinting on that. Some
of the prints turned out pretty well, and I hate the idea that the results won't last.


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