What's the best editing system?
by John Guerrero
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Aug 13, 2003 at 7:16:57 pm
I'm in the process of looking for an editing system to replace our current Avid Xpress. To be honest,I've never been overly impressed Avid - not very user-friendly, very preprietary, and I've NEVER been impressed by their local & national customer support. I've done the NAB thing, checked web-sites, yada, yada. But I think the best source is the end-users themselves. I've looked at everything from Canopus, Media 100, Pinnacle Systems, to a strange beast called Globecaster 8000. My question is "What editing system do you think is the best on the market?" I'm posting this message in every relevant forum. Please help!!!
Re: What's the best editing system? by MediaBLITZ on Aug 13, 2003 at 7:24:07 pm
Well if I was making that switch, and have been considering it - I would go to FCP4 (having already come from M100). I am going to wait and see what Xpress Pro brings first, though.
Re: What's the best editing system?: WHO IS THE BEST EDITOR??? by Charlie King on Aug 13, 2003 at 9:02:13 pm
Here is my take from what I have seen and done.
Talking about user friendly, I studied a Media 100 for almost a week and didn't quite get it down. I have been trying Premiere for some time now and dang sure haven't figured it out yet. I am working with an AVID Express, not DV and with a couple calls to Avid tech support I had the basics down in about 2 hours, the rest just fell into place over time. Granted I came from the old school linear editing. But I must say there is not much in common with Avid and linear editing either, I personally just think that Avid took more of a professional approach where several others went for the prosumer approach. I haven't tried FCP basically because MAC's don't like me, and please don't let this be the start of a platform or OS war again, I didn't say I didn't like MAC's I said they don't like me.
Re: What's the best editing system?: WHO IS THE BEST EDITOR??? by Bart Harrison on Aug 13, 2003 at 10:09:42 pm
[Charlie King]"I haven't tried FCP basically because MAC's don't like me, and please don't let this be the start of a platform or OS war again, I didn't say I didn't like MAC's I said they don't like me. "
Macs are mostly gone now anyhow. All that's left are little Unix boxes with a pretty interface.
Bart
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Re: WHO IS THE BEST EDITOR??? by Charlie King on Aug 14, 2003 at 4:21:06 pm
You two are incredible, My vote goes to the guy that loves what he does and grins about it every day, and that sweet lady that gets all the Ocean sun in Northern California. Is this a mutual admiration society? I love you two.
Re: What's the best editing system? by ric marty on Aug 14, 2003 at 12:31:43 am
The best is realy imposible to say, it would depend on the type of work you will be doing and the money you have available. All the posibilities you have been told in this forum are good.
But i will present you another one not so well known. The avid mojo is very intesting.
Re: What's the best editing system? by ronen on Aug 14, 2003 at 2:27:11 am
avid is better for couple of reasons:
1. you can edit a sequence into a sequence and still see your original cuts
2. on top of that you are saving all your previous render files when you move clips with effects applied from one sequence to the other.
3. FCP is imitating Avid [ added an avid keyboard layout, and many more], so what do you like, the real deal of a imitation one , that’s for you to say
on top of that FCP have still sync problems with long clips,
yes the effect palette is much more impassive in the FCP, but who uses all those cheesy effects anyway.
Re: What's the best editing system? by Bart Harrison on Aug 14, 2003 at 2:55:57 am
[ronen]"bottom line, you get what you pay for"
I've got a system that does HighDef, StandardDef, up conversion, down conversion, 1080i, 1080-24p, 720p, PAL, and NTSC. It'll do 16-bit, 10-bit, and 8-bit uncompressed, DV-50, DV-25, and PJPEG all on the same timeline both vertically and horizontally, with up to five layers of "high-quality" RT, wide-screen flat panel monitors, and nearly 24 hours of uncompressed storage all for under $35,000. You really can get what you pay for !!
Bart
P.S. Has it gotten any easier to do a nice drop shadow on a Media Composer ?
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"Build `em right... support `em well... let our customers do the talking !"
Bart Harrison
Multimedia Programming America
The HD Suite
America's VAR
Apple, Shake, CineWave, AJA, & Rorke SAN
www.mpa.net
Re: What's the best editing system? by Bart Harrison on Aug 14, 2003 at 4:34:09 pm
grinner,
Working with Nitris is an attractive proposal, but I want nothing to do with Discreet in any way, shape, or form !
[grinner]"wanna trade systems, Bart? "
I think I'll hang on to my CineWave 4 system, thanks. We're onlining a feature in 1080-24p right now. I'm not sure what I could trade for that would also be up to the task.
Bart
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"Build `em right... support `em well... let our customers do the talking !"
Bart Harrison
Multimedia Programming America
The HD Suite
America's VAR
Apple, Shake, CineWave, AJA, & Rorke SAN
www.mpa.net
Re: What's the best editing system? by jayem on Aug 19, 2003 at 6:28:29 am
Hi little note from a small island way down south far far away...all I can say is DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT buy, under any circumstances, into Pinnacle liquid systems. I shall not begin to list reasons against as I don't have the hours to go into it but suffice to say I cry myself to sleep each night at the loss of our beautiful Avids! Sob sob sob
