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What book to buy to lurn C4D?

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vincentWhat book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 10, 2003 at 4:22:02 am

I would like to know what is the best book for c4d r8 for a intermediate 3d person. I have to learn this program at work and yes I know about the PDFs that come with it but I want more. What book is the best!

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Jannis LabelleRe: What book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 10, 2003 at 10:41:39 am

This is the best book on r8 but you have to speak german

http://www.pixeldoggy.com/

Otherwise there is the cinema handbook that you will find on this page. I bought it and other than the section by naam which has a few things about mocca (not the best riging out there, but there is some nice stuff) the rest is not that useful. The expreso chapter is a real downer, there is nothing there worth a dime realy. The tutorial manual which is prety thin has more stuff on expreso. I think it is a little misleading when you think that the guy who wrote the chapter is a very talented programmer and the book is making a big think about it on the cover. The expresions he has come about with are laughable even for the most bacic beginer. That was a real wasted oppportunity to write something useful about expreso. As a begginer you are better off with the tutorial manuals and the many good tutorials you can find here and in other sites on the web.

regards

jannis


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Arndt von KoenigsmarckRe: What book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 10, 2003 at 11:59:11 am

>This is the best book on r8 but you have to speak german
>http://www.pixeldoggy.com/

Just wanted to add this bit of information. That book doesn't cover all of C4D, but concentrates on character design and animation with MOCCA, and XPresso.
Another german book covers the same thing, but wasn't released yet (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/3898423840).
Both books are aimed at the more experienced C4D users.




Cheers,
Arndt

http://www.vreel-3d.de
http://www.vonkoenigsmarck.de
CINEMA 4D V8 Studio Bundle


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Adam TrachtenbergRe: What book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 10, 2003 at 11:26:39 pm

As Arndt is so modest, I would highly recommend his book "Cinema 4D 7". Obviously it doesn't cover the stuff that's been added in R8, but it's still the best book on Cinema available in English. It's also a little more advanced.

AdamT
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John JenkinsRe: What book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 11, 2003 at 5:12:17 am

Arndt is really being modest. I just bought his new German book, CINEMA 4D 8.1 from Amazon.de. For a pile of euros with shipping to the USofA.
2 semesters of College German in 1952 and a dictionary aren't making things really clear, but the color illustrations are easy to follow. Why doesn't someone less linguistically challenged than I am translate all these?
Question: somewho speaks three languages? Answer: trilingual. Two languages? Bilingual One language? American.

Sorry.


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Arndt von KoenigsmarckRe: What book to buy to lurn C4D?
by on Sep 11, 2003 at 7:54:25 am

Hello John,
I am glad to hear, that even my german book is for any help for you. As I already posted here, I am not allowed to support any kind of translation (or do them by myself) as all such rights are given to the publisher only.
As no english/american publisher was interested there will be no translation this time.
At least for those of you how can read italian I can spread the good news that this book is about to be translated to italian. It will be published in Italy in October.


Cheers,
Arndt

http://www.vreel-3d.de
http://www.vonkoenigsmarck.de
CINEMA 4D V8 Studio Bundle


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Jannis LabelleRe: Arndt, about your book...
by on Sep 11, 2003 at 6:41:38 pm

Hi Arndt,

I am sorry but I have not had a look at your new book. I knew about Sven's book and the work he has done with Mocca and I think that he deals with things that you can not find in the manual. After all, if you can find the same things in the manual what use a book? I realy liked your book for version 7 (even though since character animation is my thing, I don't think that there was alot to say on it for that version), I have it in my bookcase, but I have not had a look at your latest.

Out of interest, have you a chapter on expreso? If you do I am sure that alone should make your book a must have, whether it is in german or italian.

As a general comment on books my feeling is what I expressed above, they should move beyond the manual and not tread the same ground. Also what I did not like about Adam watkins book was that the project of modelling the room is exactly the same as the one for version 7. This is not fair, especialy considering the price of these books, I feel that the author should take the time and contribute something new. I wonder if he will bring out the same project for version 9 and 10 and.....

regards

jannis


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Arndt von KoenigsmarckRe: Arndt, about your book...
by on Sep 11, 2003 at 9:54:22 pm

Hi Jannis,
as I am writing books about Cinema 4D since version 5 (GO, SE, XL-versions), I know that already a lot of the german C4D userbase owns at least one of my books. That's why I thinks it fair to publish a completely new book every time a new C4D version comes out. Of course it's more work for me, but that's what I as a reader would expect from a new book.
My actual "Pro" book about v8.1 (I have also a beginner book for v8 out) covers COFFEE, XPresso, TP, Dynamics and MOCCA in depth, as these are the things that are new in v8 or changed drastically from older versions. I have also some smaller chapters about BodyPaint and HDRI based lighting (and how to fake it without Advanced Renderer). The modelling chapter deals with the modelling of a human figure, while later chapters show how to prepare characters for animation (with and without MOCCA, as not everybody owns that module).
If someone wants more detailed informations about the content, just drop me a line. For a comparison with other available books (I haven't seen Adam's latest book yet) it would be nice if someone who owns both books could write some lines about it.

Cheers,
Arndt

http://www.vreel-3d.de
http://www.vonkoenigsmarck.de
CINEMA 4D V8 Studio Bundle


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Jannis LabelleRe: Arndt, about your book...
by on Sep 11, 2003 at 11:34:01 pm

I would love to write something about it. I bought Adams book mostly because I wanted to have a look at Naam's riging because he did the mime and I wanted to see his thought process and how he approached Mocca (he sounds like a nice guy by the way). There were a couple of expresions there that were of interest but the rest was pretty much very unchallenging stuff. Not the Mocca that I know... I was brought up in germany as a child so my german is sound enough for making sense of 3D books . If your pro book deals with all the above subjects I would be interested to read it and write a comparison of Adams, yours and Svens. Hell, I will have a look at your book regardless.

In fact a review comparing the value of books on the market might be a nice thing to have.


regards

jannis


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