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David KangStruggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 25, 2003 at 4:55:22 am

Hello,

I don't think i'm too hasty in saving money. I' just too curious about new way for something (-;
Okay, I bought additional firewire400 card and installed it in G5. This card is just ordinary firewire card(OHCI). But I'm having dropped frame while capturing to Firewire drive using FW800
I hooked up IO to new FW400 card.

My second test.

I just connected IO to new FW400 card without FW800 external drives. Still have problem. I think IO doesn't like this FW400 card, it doesn't accept any signal from IO.

What shall i do? Any suggestion? Any help?

Very appreciated...


My things
G5 Dual 2Ghz
1.5 G Ram
FCP 4.0


David


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Tony!Re: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 25, 2003 at 4:57:33 am

The Io should go into the G5's Firewire 400 port. Attach the drives to the Firewire 400 card. I've only seen Firewire 800 PCI cards for the G5's, are you sure it's compatible with your G5?

Tony!


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Tom WoodruffRe: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 25, 2003 at 12:44:59 pm

Barefeats.com just published a warning about FW800 speeds. They will issue a full report in a few days.


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David KangRe: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 26, 2003 at 2:51:05 am

Thanks, Tony.

My FW drives is 800. That's why I hooked my FW800 drives on G5's FW port. If you say I should go additional FW400 card for FW800 drives. I don't think that is suitable.
So solution is going to be additional FW800 PCI card? and use it for FW800 drives?

Many Thanks,

David


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Tony!Re: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 26, 2003 at 3:50:07 am

No go with a Firewire 800 PCI card for your drives. Do not plug your drives into the G5's built-in Firewire ports (only the Io). Tom is correct that the Firewire solutions have been testing very poorly on the G5's, so it's not an ideal situation. An internal SATA RAID would be better right now, but still not ideal. It's hard to beat a good external SCSI or Fibre RAID.

Tony!


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Charles F. McConathyRe: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 26, 2003 at 5:24:54 am

From page 45 Volume 1 of the FCP 4 manual

FireWire Drives While not recommended for all users, FireWire drives can be effectively used to capture and edit projects using low data rate video clips, such as those captured using the DV codec. However, most FireWire drives lack the performance of internal Ultra ATA drives, or of internal or external SCSI drives. One example of the difference this can make in performance is that a FireWire drive may not be able to support real-time playback on as many simultaneous audio and video tracks as an internal Ultra ATA drive can. This can also affect the number of simultaneous real-time effects that can be played back.

Important: FireWire drives are not recommended for capturing high data rate material such as uncompressed standard definition or high definition video.

If the performance limitations of FireWire drives are acceptable for your application, FireWire drives do have many advantages:

• Although they cost more than internal Ultra ATA drives, FireWire drives are still relatively inexpensive when compared to SCSI drives.
• FireWire drives are a good way to attach additional hard disk storage to a PowerBook or iBook.
• Unlike SCSI drives, FireWire drives have no drive addresses that need to be assigned, and no drive termination is required.
• FireWire drives are hot-swappable, meaning that you can connect and disconnect them from a computer without having to shut down first.

Note: You should never physically disconnect a FireWire drive prior to unmounting it from the desktop. Important FireWire drives are not recommended for capturing high data rate material such as uncompressed standard definition or high definition video.

Important: All FireWire drives can be daisy-chained, meaning that you can connect multiple drives using a single FireWire port. However, daisy-chaining FireWire drives that you plan to use as scratch disks is not recommended. Knowledge at the point of Need.

FWIW

Thanks

Charles F. McConathy
http://www.promax.com



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EdwinRe: Struggling with FW800 for storage
by on Nov 26, 2003 at 10:46:39 am

So going with the ProMax External 1TB SATA Array for PM/G5 could be the solution for SDI 10-bit uncompressed?
Thanks, Edwin


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