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shooterHD playback unit
by on Dec 11, 2004 at 3:23:52 pm

Looking to set up a stand alone display system with an HD monitor and an HD playback 'box'.
I can't find any options for an 'hd box'. My editor suggests a computer with hard drive array to play back media but I need something much simpler.
Possible 'boxes': Tivo or HD-DVD. Called Tivo and they say their unit will not record HD. The Blu-ray and HD-DVD units are out in Japan but not available in the US. Plus they do not have component inputs but they do have firewire. There will be no tech support if I grey market one into the US and the manual is in Japanese only.
What I'm looking for is a simple plug & play system to feed the HD content to the HD monitor.
I'm not a techie so please keep descriptions simple.
Thanks
Ed


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Steve WargoRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 12, 2004 at 7:34:29 am

D-VHS is the answer.

SW


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shooterRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 12, 2004 at 2:19:44 pm

By chance, can you recommend a particular model?
Thanks Steve


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shooterRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 12, 2004 at 2:34:37 pm

Steve
I found the JVC HM-DH40000U deck. $800.
It only has S-video in but claims HD quality. IS that possible with this deck?
I found a grey market source for the Sony Blu-Ray HD-DVD deck. I'm considering that option. It has firewire input.
Hoping to find somebody who's used this machine...
Thanks


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Steve WargoRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 13, 2004 at 8:10:30 am

There are several models and one or two of them are not recommended. JVC models are supposed to be pretty good. I was told by a JVC rep that the HD goes in through the firewire port but he could not provide any documents that supported his claim. LOL

The info should be available on the web somewhere. I am away on a job and have limited acces to the internet or I would research it for you.

The picture quality is amazing.

SW


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Ramona HowardRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 13, 2004 at 5:42:39 am

Ed,

Are you looking to playback uncompressed or compressed?

Ramona


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shooterRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 13, 2004 at 3:47:49 pm

Ramona
Best quality I can get. So I guess that would be uncompressed. But if that is impossible then the best compressed picture I can get.
And I need a minimum of 30 minutes. One possibility I'm considering is the iDVR-100 by Panasonic. It does 30 minutes max.
Steve
The JVC I looked at did not have firewire, just composite and s-video.


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BorjisRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 14, 2004 at 5:44:58 pm



That proprietary set top player that ryan was talking about in
the threads below would work great, and it costs under
300 bucks.


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mishkaRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 14, 2004 at 7:55:42 pm

All D-VHS decks have FW. You need to compress your footage into HD-MPEG2 first to be able to record it. For uncompressed there is Doremi Hard Disk recorders but they always were expensive - SCSI disks.

There is also an Analog HD VTR also by JVC. The quality is quite good and you can actually record to this thing HD signal, not mess with encoding first. W-VHS. Ain't cheap.


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Ramona HowardRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 14, 2004 at 8:50:44 pm

Ed,

The choices are more and more every day. I'm going to check out the $300 unit?? I find it hard to believe that you can play out uncompressed HD footage out of a $300 box. The I/O boards and drives alone(you do need multiple drives to get the bandwith you need)are more than that.

Check out.....Doremi, MaxT, RaveHD, Accom, A PC or MAC with an I/O board and an attached array and I,m sure NAB will provide a few more choices. These choices do provide a bit more on the feature set other than just playout and the HD-VHS may be the easiest choice but it will be a compressed format.

Good luck,
Ramona


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Ramona HowardRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 14, 2004 at 9:12:03 pm

http://www.iodata.com/usa/news/releases.php?newsID=30&tot=25&ts=4&tsc=21

Here is a link to some info on the set-top player. For the right application it should work BUT not for an uncompressed solution.

Take it easy,
Ramona


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BorjisRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 15, 2004 at 5:12:20 pm



sorry about that, I should have stated it is not uncompressed.
(that would be impossible for 300 bucks in this decade)

But still, it is an amazing little device to fill in the gaps
just before real HD DVD takes off.


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Ramona HowardRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 15, 2004 at 6:54:13 pm

It will be interesting to see the quality difference in that from a standard DVD player. The SDI out is a good reason alone to purchase.

Take it easy,
Ramona


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shooterRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 15, 2004 at 8:25:56 pm

The IO DATA website was gobbledygook to me! Can someone interpret what this box can really do in laymans English?

How do you get HD into this box?
How do you get HD out of this box?
Will it work standalone, ie without a computer?
What form of compression does it use?
What bit rate is it capable of?
Where on the scale of various HD schemes does the quality of this unit place?
Who killed JR?
Thanks
Ed


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Scott JensenRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 15, 2004 at 10:14:35 pm

[shooter] "How do you get HD into this box?
How do you get HD out of this box?
Will it work standalone, ie without a computer?
What form of compression does it use?
What bit rate is it capable of?
Where on the scale of various HD schemes does the quality of this unit place?
Who killed JR? "




How do you get HD out of this box?

Encode your HD stuff to a Windows Media high definition file. I think you might want to use Window media 9 encoder. Users are reporting problems playing the audio portion of Windows Media 10 files. Burn it to DVD and play it. Connect the players component video out to your HDTV.Alternatively you can use the XVID HD encoder.

Will it work standalone, ie without a computer?

YES.



What form of compression does it use?

It decompresses the file types mentioned above, as well as standard def MPEG-2 (DVD's) and others.



What bit rate is it capable of?

I believe its 8Mbps for Windows Media. Not sure about Xvid or Divx.



Where on the scale of various HD schemes does the quality of this unit place?

Should look similar to broadcast HDTV if your source footage is good. Some users are reporting slight softness in the picture. Might be worth waiting for the DVI ouput version for highest video quality...supposedly coming q1 2005.


Who killed JR?
DONALD RUMSFELD.


The forum below has many user reviews and comments about this player.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=a3d9764259b2836430748c2ccf7...



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BorjisRe: HD playback unit
by on Dec 16, 2004 at 4:59:32 pm


If I'm not mistaken it also has an ethernet port to network directly
to, copy files to/from.


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BorjisRamona....
by on Dec 16, 2004 at 5:07:08 pm


Is the D4 output, aka SDI?

Is it a BNC connector?

I didn't see any photo's of the back of it.


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Ramona HowardRe: Ramona....
by on Dec 16, 2004 at 10:36:40 pm

Your guess is as good as mine....I highly doubt it for the $300 but we can hope.

Maybe somebody out there who actually has one can answer or try contacting the manufacture.

Good luck,
Ramona


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BorjisRe: Ramona....
by on Dec 17, 2004 at 12:35:19 am


It will be interesting to see the quality difference in that from a standard DVD player. The SDI out is a good reason alone to purchase.


I thought you knew something based on the above from your previous post.

It looks like the D4 is just plain ol component analog out.


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