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Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Fredrik Brofalk on Aug 14, 2003 at 9:12:36 am

hi!
I would like to know if someone has any experiences with using Panasonic HD camcorders working with 25P or 1080/50i for PAL brodcast(not to film). How is the workflow here and how does it compare with Sony´s HDCAM shot at 25p or 50i?

regards
Fredrik B

Fredrik Brofalk
Mediacenter
University of Kristianstad
Skåne
Sweden

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Re: Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Sergey Pribyl on Aug 14, 2003 at 9:20:50 am

Fredrik,
we made PAL program, shot on Varicam 720/25p
Our experience:
1. Use AJ-FRC27E to get 1080/25p or 50i (EE mode with audio)
2. Use Cinewave HD NLE (+ Final cut pro) for post production
3. make dubbing to any SD format in PAL

As you know new AJ-HD1700E can give SD PAL signal you easier
Regards,
Sergey
Panasonic
Moscow office

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Re: Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Fredrik Brofalk on Aug 14, 2003 at 3:00:57 pm

Hi!
Have Panasonic any plans to make an true 25p or 50i HD camcorder avoiding the need for a converter before postproduction?
Or wasn´t there a 1080/50i camcorder?

regards
Fredrik B

Fredrik Brofalk
Mediacenter
University of Kristianstad
Skåne
Sweden

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Re: Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Sergey Pribyl on Aug 15, 2003 at 3:24:40 pm

This will be shown on IBC'2003 at Panasonic booth
http://www.ibc.org
But advantage of Varicam is based on real progressive format

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Re: Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Steve Mahrer on Aug 15, 2003 at 2:56:07 pm

There is a production currently underway in South Africa, Londolozi Productions are shooting "25p" on the Varicam. This is a six month natural history shoot for the Discovery Channel. The process is to shoot 720p 25.00, use either the FRC27 or the new AJ-HD1700 decks to provide a 625 (PAL) signal for offline. One-line conform / colour correction will be accomplished on the AVID DS HD in 1080p 25. Once conformed the 25.00p master will be used to provide 1080p 24 or 1080i 29.97 for the US and PAL 25Hz countries.

Just FYI the new AJ-HD1700 deck will output 1080p 24 realtime by simply playing a "24P VariCam tape, similarly 1080p 25 from a "25p" Varicam tape.

Details of the production / shooting process will be seen at the upcoming Jackson Hole Wildlife Film Festival ( Sept 22-27th)

Steve Mahrer
Panasonic Broadcast.

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Re: Any experiences working in PAL land?
by Gerry Brooks on Aug 17, 2003 at 10:32:23 pm

I have been demonstrating the AJ-HDC27FE in Australia for last 15 months.
Most productions have ended up on SD for editing and to Air. We shoot 25fps in the camera, transfer via FRC to HD-D5 or HD-CAM or downconvert to DVCPRO50 or Digibeta. All with excellent results.
The FRC function is always going to be reqired to get the variable Frame Rates. Currently the Quantel e-Q and i-Q boxes have the ability to recognise the tagged frames, and others I am sure will follow.

The FRC now has an SDI Option Board and this will give you SDI (PAL or NTSC depending upon your system setting) straight out of the FRC at full quality, with embedded audio and 25-frame Timecode.

If you want to monitor on set in PAL, check out Miranda and their new slice to fit on the back of the camera, giving you a downconverted Composite output and Firewire output. They have implemented the tagged frames recognition and I am told that this gives PAL out if you shoot 25fps.

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