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Re: Screen shots from JAG
by
Ron Lindeboom
on Mar 8, 2005 at 3:17:18 pm
[Ken Hodson]
"People heralded the new Sony cams as being perfect. Again out of pure ignorace. Steve studied the new cams and stated their true ability angering some."
I have to chuckle, Ken, at this oft repeated mantra because it seems that some here want to believe that if they repeat something often enough, that makes it true. I have been following this discussion and for the life of me, I can't find all of this espousing perfection that you guys are referring to...
Sure, there is the to-be-expected oddball comment here and there that crosses the line but a return-in-kind on-going claim of "perfection" that you guys use for ripping on both the Sony cameras and, at times, even those who use them -- that I cannot find. But I can find *plenty* of day-after-day endless diatribe of people tearing into the Sony and those who use them.
Think what you wish, Ken, that is your prerogative.
Personally, I do not like the way Sony cameras are calibrated to look, period. It's why I bought a Canon XL1 years ago instead of the Sony. Like Steve, I much prefer the warmer and richer look of the way that cameras such as the Canons and JVCs look. So it is not Sony I am defending but merely that I fail to find all these "claims to perfection" on the part of Sony users that you and some point to time after time, ad nauseum.
There are 120+ forums in the Cow and this is the only one that has the personality that this forum has. It is so irreflective of what the Cow is that Kathlyn and I have even talked about just yanking the plug on it as we believe that people are more important than bits and bytes and that in a world where no tool is perfect, to argue day after day against a good tool -- not a perfect one in any regard -- is quite self defeating and pointless.
But you are quite welcome to think what you will about it all.
Ron Lindeboom
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