SIGN IN
::
SPONSORS
::
ABOUT US
::
CONTACT US
FORUMS
TUTORIALS
MAGAZINE
TRAINING
VIDEOS - REELS
PODCASTS
EVENTS
SERVICES
NEWSLETTER
NEWS
BLOGS
HDV FORMAT:
HDV Format Forum
Tutorials
Apple FCP Forum
Adobe Premiere Pro Forum
Sony Vegas Forum
Re: Screen shots from JAG
Cow Forums
:
HDV Format
VIEW POSTS
•
ADD A NEW POST
•
SEARCH
•
CHANGE FORUM
Respond to this post
•
Return to posts index
•
Read entire thread
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by
Ron Lindeboom
on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:31:37 pm
[Steve Mullen]
"Until I saw video from the Sony I was a strong defender of the Sony against those who were heavily criticising it. Have you forgotten?"
Hi Steve,
I am not trying to be argumentative when I say that I have little recollection of times where you actually *defended* the Sony. As for the Sony and your comments in regards to it, you have been very pointedly anti-Sony for nearly all of this situation -- even before the camera was actually released. This is one of the reasons why many in these threads are remarking as to what they perceive as a strong anti-Sony posture, one that has been quite on-going.
As DRW pointed out in his remarks to one of your posts, he felt that your claim to being "neutral" in regards to Sony's HDV cameras were preposterous and disingenuous.
It matters little who is right or wrong in this. I have long argued online that facts are of little consequnce, as "perception is everything in a marketing war." The perception is that you are quite pointedly anti-Sony and pro-JVC.
I often argue my own point-of-view, Steve. Usually, I try to use operative terms like "in my opinion" and "based on my experience." I try to leave people with their own opinions and life experiences (usually, though there have been a few times where I have put my foot down but that's usually no more than two or three times in the course of an average year).
Having worked in the satellite television industry for years and having been to dinner on numerous occasions with Charlie Eregen (founder of EchoStar and Dish Network), I know how compressed digital television is and how far removed it is from what was probably seen in the first generation that Jody saw when he shot and submitted the shots which were approved. I *highly* doubt that what came across on television was what was submitted.
Having been involved in the *original* General Instruments® DigiCipher™ project (not what later was shipped using the name) -- which was the first real HD system of any developmental consequence in the USA -- and having been an editor for years, I have little faith that what you recorded is what Jody saw in the original footage.
None of this is life-or-death, it is merely art -- subject to interpretation, classification, recompression and dissection -- but in the end, I've never met a paint brush which is a "one size fits all" in all situations, nor totally useless either. In the hands of a great painter, any brush can take on a life of its own based on the degree of talent of the painter.
If a painter hates a brush, then it makes little sense to use it. But in that regard, whereas I have little doubt that NAB will usher in new and exciting things in the days ahead, I think it's a safe bet to gamble that users buying a Sony have made a reasonable purchase that should fairly easily make back the investment proffered. (And no, we do not and never have gotten advertising support from Sony. But I do like to try to be fair.)
Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
creativecow.net
Respond to this post
•
Return to posts index
•
Read entire thread
Current Message Thread:
Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 3:06:38 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by DARRELL on Mar 7, 2005 at 3:24:01 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Guy Barwood on Mar 7, 2005 at 3:43:52 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:54:21 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Guy Barwood on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:04:54 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:17:57 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Guy Barwood on Mar 7, 2005 at 7:22:42 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Shannon W. Rawls on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:45:26 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:03:57 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Shannon W. Rawls on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:10:26 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 10, 2005 at 4:58:16 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 10, 2005 at 5:21:20 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 10, 2005 at 5:54:21 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 10, 2005 at 6:00:02 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 10, 2005 at 7:00:50 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 10, 2005 at 10:07:50 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 10, 2005 at 11:49:02 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 11, 2005 at 11:25:21 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 11, 2005 at 6:55:01 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 10, 2005 at 11:53:38 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 11, 2005 at 9:26:40 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 11, 2005 at 11:19:56 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 11, 2005 at 12:23:57 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 11, 2005 at 3:19:01 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 10, 2005 at 7:02:34 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Cherniack on Mar 10, 2005 at 6:51:27 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Peter DeCrescenzo on Mar 7, 2005 at 6:24:05 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:59:34 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:27:03 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:22:34 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 6:47:39 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 8:50:07 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:16:09 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Sanjin Jukic on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:30:34 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:31:37 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 10:45:49 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:04:07 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Leo Ticheli on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:32:22 pm
Oops...
by Leo Ticheli on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:42:14 pm
Re: Oops...
by kenh on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:53:48 pm
Re: Oops...
by Leo Ticheli on Mar 8, 2005 at 12:41:16 am
Re: Oops...
by kenh on Mar 8, 2005 at 1:47:29 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:52:26 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Leo Ticheli on Mar 8, 2005 at 12:26:19 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ken Hodson on Mar 8, 2005 at 6:27:22 am
Re: shots from JAG & Ron owes me an apology
by Gary on Mar 8, 2005 at 11:48:15 am
Re: shots from JAG & Ron owes me an apology
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 8, 2005 at 2:58:37 pm
Re: shots from JAG & Ron owes me an apology
by James Green on Mar 9, 2005 at 7:57:07 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 8, 2005 at 3:17:18 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 8, 2005 at 1:02:45 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by kenh on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:39:20 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Peter DeCrescenzo on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:24:38 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:35:05 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Peter DeCrescenzo on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:53:00 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Derek Antonio Serra on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:55:38 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 7, 2005 at 7:10:03 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 7:23:38 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Peter Wright on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:00:11 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Guy Barwood on Mar 7, 2005 at 7:33:56 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Steve Connor on Mar 7, 2005 at 9:25:55 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Peter Wright on Mar 7, 2005 at 10:53:54 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Steve Mullen on Mar 7, 2005 at 11:31:35 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Sanjin Jukic on Mar 7, 2005 at 12:03:58 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Derek Antonio Serra on Mar 7, 2005 at 12:22:44 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Guy Barwood on Mar 8, 2005 at 7:26:16 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Peter Wright on Mar 7, 2005 at 2:14:02 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by kwshaw1 on Mar 7, 2005 at 3:15:16 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by stuwillis on Mar 24, 2005 at 3:34:43 am
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by kwshaw1 on Mar 24, 2005 at 4:43:44 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by Simon Wyndham on Mar 24, 2005 at 4:59:04 pm
Re: DV is dead in our local film industry.
by kwshaw1 on Mar 24, 2005 at 5:19:04 pm
God bless those early adopters. Or: It's the pioneers that catch all the arrows.
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:39:23 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Steve Connor on Mar 7, 2005 at 5:59:38 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Cherniack on Mar 7, 2005 at 7:58:37 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Ron Lindeboom on Mar 7, 2005 at 8:44:44 pm
Re: MOO!
by Harry Pallenberg on Mar 8, 2005 at 4:28:09 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Kent on Mar 7, 2005 at 4:37:56 pm
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by George on Mar 8, 2005 at 3:34:31 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Dan Achatz on Mar 9, 2005 at 1:25:09 am
HDV wins anyway
by James Green on Mar 9, 2005 at 8:14:01 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by Bob Tur on Mar 10, 2005 at 1:24:42 am
Re: Screen shots from JAG
by David Roth Weiss on Mar 10, 2005 at 1:45:49 am
Note:
If you are a registered user please
click here to login
before posting.
Your post will not be accepted if your name and email address are not registered in our database. Click
here
if you do not have an account.
Name
E-Mail Address
Subject
E-Mail me when someone responds
Just This Message
Entire Thread
None
Message:
Note:
The following are HTML characters and may cause parts of your post to disappear if not used correctly: < > &
To include any portion of the post in your response, highlight the desired text and hit the "Q" key.
Read more...
Add your message signature
Note:
By clicking "Post Direct" button above, you are agreeing to the Creative Cow's
Code of Conduct
.
FORUMS
•
TUTORIALS
•
MAGAZINE
•
TRAINING
•
VIDEOS - REELS
•
PODCASTS
•
EVENTS
•
SERVICES
•
NEWSLETTER
•
NEWS
•
BLOGS
©
CreativeCOW.net
All rights are reserved.
[
Top
]