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Re: Screen shots from JAG
by
Ron Lindeboom
on Mar 7, 2005 at 6:47:39 pm
[Steve Mullen]
"So we are left with the Sundance/Sony/Jody claims verses the results we all can see. None of the PR said this is an example of HDV compromised by the conditions of the shoot. The PR was that "look how HDV can be cut into an HDCAM Broadcast HDTV program without anyone seeing much difference." That PR was B.S. It's like "I caught a huge fish -- but the line broke.""
If the use of a fishing metaphor is going to define this argument, then "landing the fish" must define the success or failure of the attempt.
Since Jody did indeed "land the fish" and the shot was used and was deemed "good enough" by the directors and producers of the show, then the line is hardly BS but is merely a difference in opinion as to what you may think is a good shot or not.
Jody is a RESPECTED industry pro and reducing him to the level of an industry shill is both disingenuous and will ultimately backfire on you if you care to keep pursuing this line of discourse.
How you can argue against the Sony while defending the JVC to such great lengths, makes many here question what is up here -- me included.
None of these cameras is perfect and while I do indeed that to be the case, I also know quite well that some of JVCs GY-DV500s and other cameras had well-known and on-going issues which required well-documented service calls, etc. On the other hand, I cannot think of a single prosumer or above Sony camera which has fallen into that category in the last five years or so.
Sony builds very good stuff. So does Panasonic. So does JVC. The same goes for Canon.
Sadly, Jody wrote me and said that he wanted no part of this forum as it is contentious and disrespectful. I for one was very sorry to see him go. The Cow is about respect and give and take -- no one's opinion is Gospel here, not even my own. There are many hosts that I disagree with that are on the host team here at the Cow. If it were only my own opinion, this would be a boring one-dimensional place.
I think it all comes down to that "throwing out the baby with the bathwater" thingie...
Best regards,
Ron Lindeboom
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