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Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
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Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by
Leo Ticheli
on Nov 14, 2003 at 9:49:30 pm
The “problem” you’re talking about has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with the DVX100.
Virtually every motion picture film ever shown on television was shot at 24 fps progressive with a film camera then transferred to video tape with a 3/2 pull-down. The vast majority of television shows and commercials shot on film are shot at 24 fps progressive and transferred to video tape with the 3/2 pull-down. The temporal effects of shooting with the DVX100 are identical to a film camera at 24 fps, when the shutter is set to 50% to yield a 1/48 second exposure.
It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that a shorter shutter will make action smoother; it does just the opposite. With the shutter off, you are getting an exposure duration of 1/24 of a second; more blur on action and pans, less strobe.
A few people suggest that you shoot at 30p and some, a few cinematographers, shoot film at 30 fps; I don’t like this look for dramatic presentations. It’s too “video” to me. For some kinds of action such as sports, it may be appropriate.
If you don’t like the look of movies on television, then 24p may not be for you. If you are not getting the same temporal effect shooting the DVX100, you need to learn how to shoot at 24p. Study the movies carefully; emulate the camera movement you see.
Best regards,
Leo
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The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 14, 2003 at 5:26:06 am
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Jay Blanchard on Nov 14, 2003 at 1:28:46 pm
Shutter was set to "Off"
by Steve on Nov 14, 2003 at 3:00:55 pm
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by donatello on Nov 14, 2003 at 4:47:02 pm
The Stobe is Huge - not at all film-like
by Steve on Nov 14, 2003 at 5:29:13 pm
Re: The Stobe is Huge - not at all film-like
by John Sharaf on Nov 14, 2003 at 7:33:12 pm
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by stefan on Nov 14, 2003 at 7:58:19 pm
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Leo Ticheli on Nov 14, 2003 at 9:49:30 pm
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Jay Blanchard on Nov 15, 2003 at 12:46:29 am
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Leo Ticheli on Nov 15, 2003 at 1:51:24 am
Re: The 24Phas a very "Strobe-ish" look. Normal? Filmouts? How to reduce?
by Mike Most on Nov 15, 2003 at 4:04:06 am
Where?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 15, 2003 at 4:32:12 am
Jay, Donatello, John, Stefan and Leo: Any concensus?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 15, 2003 at 4:27:24 am
Re: Jay, Donatello, John, Stefan and Leo: Any concensus?
by Leo Ticheli on Nov 15, 2003 at 12:06:58 pm
Re: Jay, Donatello, John, Stefan and Leo: Any concensus?
by ICExpo on Nov 17, 2003 at 3:28:11 am
Re: Jay, Donatello, John, Stefan and Leo: Any concensus?
by Jason on Nov 17, 2003 at 2:35:45 pm
So the best settings are 1/48 and 1/24, no OIS? Test footage out there?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 18, 2003 at 2:38:16 pm
Re: So the best settings are 1/48 and 1/24, no OIS? Test footage out there?
by ICExpo on Nov 26, 2003 at 5:33:14 am
These were shot at 24P?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 26, 2003 at 1:00:11 pm
Re: These were shot at 24P?
by ICExpo on Nov 26, 2003 at 7:02:38 pm
Re: These were shot at 24P?
by ICExpo on Nov 26, 2003 at 10:44:41 pm
7 Seconds? That's pretty restrictive isn't it?
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 28, 2003 at 4:33:14 am
Your AVI footage seriosly stobes in playback too, by the the way
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 28, 2003 at 4:41:44 am
Re: Your AVI footage seriosly stobes in playback too, by the the way
by ICExpo on Nov 28, 2003 at 7:47:33 am
Re: 7 Seconds? That's pretty restrictive isn't it?
by ICExpo on Nov 28, 2003 at 7:45:05 am
The manual may say that, but.....
by Steve Clarendon on Nov 30, 2003 at 3:01:23 pm
Re: The manual may say that, but.....
by ICExpo on Dec 1, 2003 at 2:49:02 am
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